Better NOT Call Saul! Ethics Lessons from Saul Goodman
Date: Dec 5, 2025 12:00 p.m. – 1:40 p.m.
Location: Online
Member Price: $99.00
Non-Member Price: $125.00
Section Price: $0.00
Areas of Law: Ethics
Earn up to 2 credits, including 2.0 in Ethics! (More Information)
Keynote
Moderator
Presenters
- Steven Keslowitz
- Attorney and Pop Culture Expert
AXA Equitable Life Insurance Company
Saul Goodman: Advocate. Shyster. Tragic Hero. Gimmick. Fraud.
Jimmy McGill (AKA Saul Goodman) burst into that interrogation room in Breaking Bad and the world of TV lawyers changed forever. Smarmy, cunning and entertaining, he was the perfect stereotype of awfulness that was fun to watch.
Join us for a special “Better Call Saul” lunch and learn as Steven Keslowitz, practicing attorney and pop culture expert, tackles the thorny ethical dilemmas that Saul encountered and often either ignored or exacerbated. Those of us who loved the Breaking Bad franchise remember that Saul’s actions were extreme – he staged accidents, conned nursing home patients, laundered money, covered up murders, consistently lied to the Court, threw documents in a dumpster – the list goes on. Steve will discuss the ethical issues encountered by Saul – some obvious but some subtle – and what New Jersey attorneys can learn from this notorious character.
About the speaker:
Steven Keslowitz is a practicing attorney and serves as Senior Director and Counsel of Intellectual Property and Technology at AXA Equitable Life Insurance Company. He previously practiced law at the international law firm Debevoise and Plimpton. He is a magna cum laude graduate of the Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law, where he served as Executive Editor of the Cardozo Law Review and was named a Dean’s Distinguished Scholar.
Steven is the author of five books: The Digital Dystopias of Black Mirror and Electric Dreams; Why You Better Call Saul: What Our Favorite TV Lawyer Says About Life, Love and Scheming Your Way to Acquittal and a Large Cash Payout (2017); The Tao of Jack Bauer: What Our Favorite Terrorist Buster Says About Life, Love, Torture and Saving the World 24 Times in 24 Hours With No Lunch Break (2009); From Poland to Brooklyn: The Lives of My Grandparents: Two Holocaust Survivors (2008); and The World According to The Simpsons: What Our Favorite TV Family Says About Life, Love and the Pursuit of the Perfect Donut (2006). He is also the author of several widely-cited academic articles about pop culture and legal issues.
Steven has given dozens of radio interviews about pop culture issues across several continents, including on NPR, ESPN and ABC Radio. He has been a featured guest on many podcasts, and his views on the political and social significance of “The Simpsons” and “24” have been cited in numerous academic articles. His views on “The Simpsons” have been featured in more than five hundred newspapers and other media outlets across four continents. “The World According to The Simpsons” has been required reading in sociology, English, writing and Simpsons courses across the United States, including at Tufts, Carnegie Mellon, Drury, Montana State University, and the University of Colorado at Denver, among others. He has lectured about The Simpsons at universities, law firms, bookstores and book festivals.
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